Monday, February 26, 2007

DUE TUE 2/27 – Iliad Assignment

Q:

I am confused why who a lot of the characters are. Such as Atrides, Diomedes, Orestes, Chrysothemis, Laodice, Iphianassa, Ajax, Odysseus, Heralds, Odius, and Eurybates. I also don’t know what a tripod is; I'm assuming they don’t mean the thing that holds cameras.

Opinion of Agamemnon before and after:

I thought that Agamemnon was a power hungry jerk who got what he wanted while not doing much work himself. It seemed like he gave his men (this is especially true with Achilles) just barley what they need to want to work for him. After reading the text I think the same from him, because he acts the same. He offers Achilles an immense reward to try to bring him back to fight for him. But if you think about it you realize that he is just trying to give Achilles the bare minimum that he can offer (Agamemnon has much more fortune that what he is offering) to get him to fight. Yet Achilles doesn’t accept it still and he thinks that Agamemnon is so much of a jerk that he still won’t fight for him.

Persuasive conversation notes:

Nestor, Odysseus, and Ajax try and convince Achilles that he should continue to fight for Agamemnon. The say that Agamemnon will give him a lot of riches and luxuries if he comes backs to fight. That is what Nestor, Odysseus, and Ajax use to appeal to reason. They use a really good ethics reason too. They say that Achilles should join to help save the Greeks. They try to get him to feel sorry for them because they are going to die if he won't fight. As to what they used to appeal to him emotionally I still can not figure it out after reading the text over and over again.

2 comments:

Kit Haggard said...

Michael

I can answer who all of those people are. (I have to admit though, I have the actual book, I bought it, and some of them I looked up in the back, I think that might be cheating, but whatever).

Ok,

Atrides--This means son of Atreus (I think that's how you spell it). Atreus is the father of Agamemnon and Menlaeus.

Diomedes--He is a Greek warrior. I dont think that he is all that important.

Orestes--(I didnt know this one) He is the son of Agamemnon and killed by Hector (prince of Troy)

Chrysothemis, Laodice and Iphianassa--Agamemnon's daughters. He offers one of them to Achilles in book nine, line 174.

Ajax--He is a Greek warrior. He is fairly large and very powerful. He is freinds with Achilles and Odyddeus.

Odysseus--He is "The Great Tactioner", in the end, he is the one (I think) that comes up with the idea of the horse. He lives to sail back to his family, but the whole book "The Odyssy" is about him. He is friends with Achilles and Ajax.

A herald--This is not actualy a character, but more like a name for a servant or attendant.

Odius--(I didn't know this one either) He's just a Greek atendant, or herald.

Eurybates--(Didn't know this one) also a herald of Agamemnon.

I cant say that I know what a tripod is either. I can only asume, like you did, that it is NOT a camera tripod. I think that it must be valuable.

Hope that helped
Kit

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